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Store:  Card Games, Strategy Games
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Nicht die Bohne!


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Ages Play Time Players
10+ 30 minutes 3-6

Designer(s): Horst-Reiner Rosner

Manufacturer(s): Amigo

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Product Description

A tricky pack of cards, with which the players try to collect as many cards of the same color as possible. All players play a card face up in front of themselves each round and auction them to their opponents. At the end, the collected cards count plus or minus points according to special cards. Whoever has the most points at the end wins.

Product Information

  • Designer(s): Horst-Reiner Rosner

  • Manufacturer(s): Amigo

  • Artist(s): Bjorn Pertoft

  • Year: 1999

  • Players: 3 - 6

  • Time: 30 minutes

  • Ages: 10 and up

  • Weight: 177 grams

  • Language Requirements: Game components are language-independent. An English translation of the rules is provided.

Product Reviews

 
 
 
 
 

Average Rating: 3.9 in 7 reviews

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by David
Dang, screwed again
April 06, 2000

This is a fantastic game. You can find an overview of the rules elsewhere so I will not go into them here but the dynamics of the game is great. As in Ex & Hopp this does become a game of screwing the leader and helping whoever is behind. I seem to have a soft spot for mean games and this fits right in there with Ex & Hopp, Green Thumb and Wortelboer. Very highly recommended.

 
 
 
 
 
This bean game from Deutschland has real spunk!
December 13, 2002

What is it with Germans and beans? Weve had Bohnanza, La Isla Bohnita, Space Beans ... and now Nicht die Bohne. Ive had the great pleasure of traveling extensively in Germany and dont recall beans being a large dietary staple or being such a big deal. Nevertheless, beans seem to be an enticing theme when it comes to games.

Nicht die Bohne, designed by Horst Reiner Rosner and released by Amigo, is a clever Essen release which has been mostly overlooked. That's a shame, as it is quite a fun and nasty card game with some interesting twists.

The game rules and mechanics are very simple, but do require one to warp his thinking outside of the normal patterns. There are four sets (colors) of cards, each color with two sets of cards numbered 1 - 10, three 'minus' cards, one x2 card, and one 'Nicht die Bohne' ('Not the Bean') card. These are all shuffled together and dealt out evenly to the players. The game can accommodate from 3 - 6 players, but I've found that it would actually plays better with 5 or 6.

The start player places one of his cards face up on the table and marks it with the wooden bean token. All other players then simultaneously play a card face-down from their hands and they are then revealed. The start player then chooses one of the cards (not the one marked with the bean token) and places it in his field in front of him. The player whose card was chosen then selects one of the other cards. This continues until only one player hasn't had a selection, and he gets the original card marked with the bean token. He will now be the 'start' player for the next round.

What are you trying to accomplish? Well, once all cards have been played and collected, the scoring round is held. Players score each of their colors independently. You tally the numbers on each of one the cards for one color you managed to collect. If you have either 0 or 2 negative cards, the result is positive. If you have 1 or 3 negative cards, however, the result is negative. This figure is then doubled if you collected the x2 card ... which, of course, could be either a negative or positive result. This same calculation is done for each of your four colors collected and the totals added for a final result.

The game is played over three rounds and the player with the highest cumulative total is the victor.

Again, sounds easy enough. The warped thinking required, however, is that when you are the 'start' player, you usually want to lead with a card no one would want. This forces your opponents to play cards you desire so you will choose their card, allowing them to pick next. They are all trying to avoid being the last player to have his card selected, otherwise they will get stuck with the nasty lead card. So, to get a good card, you have to lead with a bad one. Hmmm.

However, you don't want to help your opponents TOO much, so sometimes it is wiser to offer horrible cards that your opponent will have to take, even if it means you getting hurt, too. With more players, however, this gets more and more difficult to accomplish.

One also must keep a careful eye on the number of cards which have already been played, especially the 'negative' cards. Getting stuck with one negative cards isn't a tragedy IF the other two negative cards have not yet been played yet. However, one must be careful to not to get stuck with that last negative card if it will result in an overall negative score for you for that color.

During the card selection process, with four players, it is not too difficult to decipher which cards will likely be selected by whom. That's the one real problem I see with the game. It tends to bog down as a player contemplates, 'If I take the yellow 3 from Bill, then Bill will likely take the Blue 1 from Greg, which means Greg will have to take the negative green from Ashton, who'll then get stuck with the yellow negative. But, if I take the negative green from Ashton, then Ashton will take .....'. You get the idea. The game is one which is very susceptible to such analyzation and calculation, which with four players greatly bogged the game down. Later playings with 5 and 6 players actually sped up the game as such analyzation and calculation proved to be too cumbersome and difficult, so players didn't try to do it.

One rule we steadfastly enforce following the first round is 'no helping other players'. Let them play their own game, for better or worse. Otherwise, it would be very easy to coach players to take this card or that one.

Nicht die Bohne is quite fun and, to my surprise, quite vicious. In a recent edition of Counter magazine, Stuart Dagger accurately said, 'This is not a game where you have a huge amount of control, but it is one that often offers plenty of scope for group malice.' Due to this 'malice', I don't know if this game is really destined to be a 'family' game that I originally envisioned. But that's OK ... a little viciousness within a circle of gamers can be a fun thing!

 
 
 
 
 
Good, fast game of 'hose-your-neighbor'
November 27, 2001

Nicht die Bohne is a wonderful card game. It can be taught quickly, it plays relatively quickly (I find that a game takes about half an hour), and it has the obligatory 'wooden bit' in the form of the Beanchip.

As with any card game, there are occasional problems with excessive randomness. But I think there's enough skill in Nicht die Bohne that it's not really that much of a problem.

A definite winner. Highly recommended.

 
 
 
 
 
A Vicious Quickie...
October 24, 2001

Nicht Die Bohne surprised me. I thought this was going to be something similar to [page scan/se=0027/sf=category/fi=stockall.asc/ml=20]Bohnanza, but Nicht is nothing like that at all. The rules are so simple that they barely take up one side of a piece of paper. So I wasn't expecting a game which found members of our group yelling from pain when they got stuck with a 'negative' bean, or conspiratorial discussions erupting when they realized that one of our group was quietly amassing a pile of like-colored beans.

The clever dynamic of this game comes from the fact that you will not be able to keep any of the cards in your hand. Rather, you know that they will all be going to your opponents. So the trick is timing their play so that they benefit you the most.

In the beginning it seems as simple as 'if you're trying to get a good card, you play a bad card' and vice versa. Yet, as you play more and more, you realize that you need to hold onto both your good and bad cards to acquire the ones that best complement the cards you are getting.

Meanwhile, everyone is plotting to get the best cards for themselves and stick everyone else with cards that they hope will hurt them.

This is just the vicious kind of game our group loves. It's another great game value for gamers that like to get a little... raucous.

 
 
 
 
 
The Beans Have Been Recounted!
September 10, 2000

A while back I reviewed this game giving it 3 stars and in general not finding it all that appealing. I have since played the game several more times and my opinion has changed significantly on this game from average/mediocre to enjoyable/good. What's that they say about haste making waste?

Initially, I felt the game which is listed as a 3-6 player game was poor with 3 and as the numbers increased the amount of control you had decreased making the game too random. Well, my comment with 3 players still stands, but I now think that with 4 or 5 players (and probably with 6 too) there is much more control than it seems and some careful thought and planning make this a pretty good game.

It is still a filler good for opening or closing a session and I also think it is a fun family game, but there is more to it than meets the eye and my first review was off base. I would recommend this game with enthusiasm and I look to play it much more than I initially thought I would.

 
 
 
 
 
More beans from Deutschland
May 25, 2000

What is it with Germans and beans? We've had Bohnanza, La Isla Bohnita, Space Beans ...and now Nicht die Bohne. I've had the great pleasure of traveling extensively in Germany and don't recall beans being a large dietary staple or being such a big deal. Nevertheless, beans seem to be an enticing theme when it comes to games.

Nicht die Bohne, designed by Horst Reiner Rosner and released by Amigo, is a clever Essen release which has been mostly overlooked. That's a shame, as it is quite a fun and nasty card game with some interesting twists.

The game rules and mechanics are very simple, but do require one to warp his thinking outside of the normal patterns. There are four sets (colors) of cards, each color with two sets of cards numbered 1-10, three 'minus' cards, one x2 card, and one 'Nicht die Bohne' ('Not the Bean') card. These are all shuffled together and dealt out evenly to the players. The game can accommodate from 3-6 players, but I've found that it would actually plays better with 5 or 6.

The start player places one of his cards face up on the table and marks it with the wooden bean token. All other players then simultaneously play a card face-down from their hands and they are then revealed. The start player then chooses one of the cards (not the one marked with the bean token) and places it in his field in front of him. The player whose card was chosen then selects one of the other cards. This continues until only one player hasn't had a selection, and he gets the original card marked with the bean token. He will now be the 'start' player for the next round.

What are you trying to accomplish? Well, once all cards have been played and collected, the scoring round is held. Players score each of their colors independently. You tally the numbers on each of one the cards for one color you managed to collect. If you have either 0 or 2 negative cards, the result is positive. If you have 1 or 3 negative cards, however, the result is negative. This figure is then doubled if you collected the x2 card... which, of course, could be either a negative or positive result. This same calculation is done for each of your four colors collected and the totals added for a final result.

The game is played over three rounds and the player with the highest cumulative total is the victor.

Again, sounds easy enough. The warped thinking required, however, is that when you are the 'start' player, you usually want to lead with a card no one would want. This forces your opponents to play cards you desire so you will choose their card, allowing them to pick next. They are all trying to avoid being the last player to have his card selected, otherwise they will get stuck with the nasty lead card. So, to get a good card, you have to lead with a bad one. Hmmm.

However, you don't want to help your opponents too much, so sometimes it is wiser to offer horrible cards that your opponent will have to take, even if it means you getting hurt, too. With more players, however, this gets more and more difficult to accomplish.

One also must keep a careful eye on the number of cards which have already been played, especially the 'negative' cards. Getting stuck with one negative cards isn't a tragedy if the other two negative cards have not yet been played yet. However, one must be careful to not to get stuck with that last negative card if it will result in an overall negative score for you for that color.

During the card selection process, with four players, it is not too difficult to decipher which cards will likely be selected by whom. That's the one real problem I see with the game. It tends to bog down as a player contemplates, 'If I take the yellow 3 from Bill, then Bill will likely take the Blue 1 from Greg, which means Greg will have to take the negative green from Ashton, who'll then get stuck with the yellow negative. But, if I take the negative green from Ashton, then Ashton will take ...'. You get the idea. The game is one which is very susceptible to such analysis and calculation, which with four players greatly bogged the game down. Later playings with 5 and 6 players actually sped up the game as such analysis and calculation proved to be too cumbersome and difficult, so players didn't try to do it.

One rule we steadfastly enforce following the first round is 'no helping other players'. Let them play their own game, for better or worse. Otherwise, it would be very easy to coach players to take this card or that one.

Nicht die Bohne is quite fun and, to my surprise, quite vicious. In a recent edition of Counter magazine, Stuart Dagger accurately said, 'This is not a game where you have a huge amount of control, but it is one that often offers plenty of scope for group malice.' Due to this 'malice', I don't know if this game is really destined to be a 'family' game that I originally envisioned. But that's OK... a little viciousness within a circle of gamers can be a fun thing!

 
 
 
 
 
Nacht Die Bohne For Me
April 17, 2000

Nicht Die Bohne is a clever little card game for 3-6 players. The object of the game is to take positive scoring bean cards while avoiding the negative and 'Nicht Die Bohne' cards which hurt your score. The player who controls the bean chip reveals a card face up and then all of the other players choose a card and place it face down. All the facedown cards are then revealed. The player controlling the bean chip gets his pick of all the cards and chooses one. The player whose card is chosen then gets to pick a card from the remaining cards except that they cannot choose the card from the player who just chose his. This repeats until all cards are chosen and then the player taking the last card gets the bean chip and it starts over until all cards are gone.

The game seems to be quite vicious and there does seem to be some strategy as to what cards to play in order to force people to take your cards, although I suspect this really isn't the case. The game does play quick and it is simple to explain so it should be good for families and even younger kids. For me though the game was very average and did not have that play-it-again quality.

One note, the game says it plays for 3 players, but it is terrible with 3 and a bit better with 4. It becomes much more entertaining and unpredictable with 5 or 6 although with more players any control you thought you had is now nonexistent.

I had high hopes for this game, and while it is a fun 30 minute diversion, I won't be clamoring for it on a regular basis.

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