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Who Stole Ed's Pants?
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Never one to clamor for attention, Ed was happy to ignore the embarrassing theft of his pants and just climb into bed.
But today, he awakens to find that word of the crime is all over town, and everyone is eager to point fingers. Rumors are flying. Wild accusations are made at the drop of a hat. And the police will arrest anyone just to quell the uproar.
You need to make sure the mobs don't come after you. Better yet, plant some evidence on your friends and drop hints as to their less-than-stellar character. Anything goes, because in all the excitement, no one has even bothered to ask Ed the details of the crime. If you can keep your own record clean, you might even become the hero for turning in the thief of Ed's pants!
But you'll need supporters to back you up. Fortunately, there's plenty of townsfolk who owe you favors and government officials who need allies. Plus, the circus is in town. Choose your friends wisely, because the wrong acquaintances can make you a target for others....
- 95 cards
- 4 player mats
- 14 glass gaming stones
- 1 rulebook
Average Rating: 3.8 in 8 reviews
This is a nice card game of framing your playmates. Everyone is a suspect in stealing the pants and you want the change your alibis and other's alibis so you can change the facts of the case to your advantage and plant evidence on other players to incriminate them. Easy to learn. Has 2 different ways to play. 3 player free for all or 4 player with 2 teams of 2. Both are enjoyable and a lot of fun.
The farcical subject matter belies the wide range of play choices that make Who Stole Ed's Pants? a significantly more complex game then it would appear.
Basically there are three card types: Evidence, Facts and Witnesses. Evidence and Facts are broken down further into Who, What and Where categories. All seven of these card types are distinguishable from the backs of the cards. This makes it so that you can tell the basic composition of the other players hands. It also allows you to see the type of Evidence or Fact card that is available for draw from the corresponding draw pile (there is an individual draw pile for each of the three basic card types) and you are allowed to choose which draw pile to replenish from (and affect the end of a hand since the hand ends when any draw pile is exhausted).
An example of the complexity of play: The primary focus is on playing as many evidence cards on the other players as possible, but your ability to do this is based upon witness cards that you are dealt at the beginning of the game, one in each category: who, what and where. Your witness in the category of the evidence card you wish to play must be considered 'more credible' than the target's. Witness are ranked 1 to 6 in 6 different categories and the categories are assigned relative credibility randomly at the start of the game (such that a rank 6 in the law enforcer category could be outranked by a rank 1 in the circus performers category if the circus performer witness category is 'more credible' than the law enforcers categeory). If your witness is not credible enough in relation to your target's then you can play a witness card from your hand to 1) change your witness, as long as the new card's rank is lower than or equal to your current card's (but presumably of a higher category) , 2) change your opponent's witness, as long as the new card's rank is higher than or equal to their current card's (but presumably of a lower category) or 3) play a witness card that allows you to shift the order of that category up or down in credibility (based upon the rank of the card).
The complexity of play makes it somewhat difficult to teach to non-gamers/children, and makes it somewhat daunting for these people to play against a more experienced, strategic player. The luck inherent in a card game and the potential to be ganged up on can somewhat level the playing field but the off the wall subject matter may lead people to believe this game is more simple than it is.
In the long run, however, the game is fun to play and has enough play options that every person is actively participating.
This is a deceptive little game. It seems silly, at first glance. But it's got layers of strategy and gets more complex with each playing. The two team game (4 player) is a different animal than the 3 player free-for-all. New players may stick to planting evidence and changing facts. Experienced players will find new challenges and fun in playing with the witness credibility scale.
A fun little game, and well worth picking up.
The first thing I have to say is that I had to read the instructions several times and then try to explain what I read to the other players which took up more time than I would have cared... but...
Once we got through our first few rounds, the mechanics of the game popped into place and it was soon apparant how beautifully dynamic this game truly is.
Once players are comfortable with the numerious options (change the facts, upgrade the reliability of your witness, plant evidence on your opponents, etc.) gameplay is rather quick. I would estimate that the average length of a typical game is 20-40 minutes.
Of course this is all controlled by the players themselves as ending the game is a matter of exhausting any of 3 different piles of cards.
Lots of variety and a dominating theme of backstabbing and treachery make this one of the top games in my 'screw-your-buddy' category of games.
I have had it with people stealing my pants. I know one of you did it and I am going to lock you away... or perhaps I did it for the insurance money.
Who Stole Ed's pants is an amusing game of incriminating your 'friends' to protect yourself. At first glance it may seem to be a light hearted good time game. However, when this game is coupled with a few scheming friends it becomes very strategic.
The game consists of several types of cards score mats and glass counters, which was a surprise as the packaging is very small. The cards are high quality with some interesting artwork.
With most games of this nature, the level of fun depends on whom you are playing with. If people sit back and don't really take part, it becomes little fun. If you friends are the type that would actually steal your pants and all deny it. You will have an excellent time.
I played this game for the first time this past holiday weekend, and I watched parts of two other games. It's a difficult game to describe.
The title of the game may suggest that it's a game of deduction, like Clue or Sleuth, but it's not. Instead, it's assumed that the guilty person is the person the police arrest---your job is to make sure that person is someone else and not you! You want to make sure the evidence associated with you matches the facts of the case less closely than the evidence associated with the other players.
Of course, there are two ways to accomplish this goal. Either you pile more evidence up on the others, or (going straight to the heart of the matter) you simply change the facts of the case. Unfortunately, these strategies require that your own supporters are credible in the eyes of the detectives and that the supporters of your opponents are not credible. This means it can be valuable to change your supporters---or your opponents' supporters---or the opinion of the detectives about the relative credibility of these various supporters.
I'll make a crazy observation: this game feels quite a bit like Die Macher to me. It feels a lot more like Die Macher than any one-hour card game has any right to feel. Of course it's lighter (what else would you expect?) Some of the earlier reviews on this site refer to its complexity, and it truly is a fairly complex game. But if you are a fan of Die Macher, I particularly recommend that you give this game a try.
As you play, it seems there are a zillion things to keep track of: the evidence on you and your opponents, the facts of the case, your own supporters, your opponents' supporters (not only Circus Performers versus People On The Street but 1's versus 6's, all in three different categories, When, Where and Who,) the ranking of the various groups, how many turns are left in the round, and so forth. Even worse is the feeling that as you work to put a credible Circus Performer in as your own supporter in place of that untrustworthy Person On The Street, your opponent may pull a switch and downgrade the credibility of the Circus Performers as a group. How can you keep it all straight?
In addition to its other attractive characteristics, this game works very well as a three-player game (probably better than as a four-player game.) There aren't too many good three-player games, so it's a valuable feature.
Consider this a warning that you should not always trust the "Current Bestsellers" list at Funagain; look for ratings, and check Board Game Geeks. I bought this game as a family game for Christmas 2003, due to its position on this list (a bestseller at the time), its theme and category, and the cute title. I suspect there were lots of others like me who saw it on the bestseller list and got it (so continuing the cycle), as the game was relatively inexpensive and it sounded like a reasonable family game.
My family and I played it once, we never tried it again. All I recall is that the rules made for somewhat tortuous play: do this, don't do that. Lots of mechanics, not a lot of decision- making. If my memory was better, I could explain more why we disliked it so. As it is, I'm giving it two stars only because I do not recall and do not want to play it again to remember.
The reviews and descriptions all sounded like this was going to be a lot of fun. It comes in a surprisingly small box and at first glance appears to be a simple card game.
But there are seven, count 'em, seven different types of cards, player score mats, and colored stones all in that little tiny box. The setup seems overly complicated and, unfortunately, some of the rules are vague. The cards are so small that they are difficult to shuffle well.
And the gameplay goes very slow.
Much of the time, we seemed to have cards in our hand that were all useless and had no effect on the game. There's nothing worse than players not having anything fun to do.
So we agonized over what card to play. When we did decide on a play, it was more of a blind choice than any strategic move ('Eeny, meeny...'). We wondered when it was going to get fun.
The theme and the descriptions on the cards are humorous but there was nothing humorous about the long, dull, overly complex game. This one's probably never going to see the light again at our house.
Last year's category Runner-Up still has us trying to change the initial random "Facts" about Who, When, and Where. It's a zany but complex investigation that would have both bemused and challenged Sherlock Holmes. Evidence cards planted on someone will stick, but they only count if they match a current Fact. The initial ranking of Witnesses can be changed by shrewd cardplay, so your witness can suddenly become more credible and able to deflect attention from you by changing an inconvenient Fact. When cards are depleted, whoever has fewest valid accusations wins (the one without pants, perhaps?). After all, in this intense struggle to prove your innocence, nobody cares who actually did the crime!
Everyone in town knows one of you did it, but rumors abound about Who, When, and Where. The initial "Facts" of each category and the credibility of Witnesses can be changed by shrewd cardplay. Groups of Witnesses are randomly ranked in order of credibility. Discarding a Witness card alters its group's standing. Change an uncomfortable Fact with another if your Witness's credibility is sufficiently high. Evidence planted on someone sticks, but is only detrimental when it agrees with a current Fact. When the cards are depleted, the suspect with fewest accusations wins. This zany brawl to avoid conviction will leave you with new respect for gumshoes.